Web revival

MumiMoondrops wrote:

ocpdzim wrote:

On the topic of discord servers since someone brought that up earlier in the thread, they are fun for conversations with friends, but I really dislike how ubiquitous they’ve become for larger communities - ESPECIALLY if it’s something that people would benefit from accessing long-term or without otherwise participating (eg troubleshooting for a game, or discussions about crafts). The big problem with large discord communities is exactly the same as the main benefit of small ones: outsiders can’t access it. That’s great if I’m having a personal chat with my friends but otherwise it’s terrible for the availability of information online. So many websites are requiring an account to read them lately, too, it’s very troubling.

yes, this!! i have a lot of thoughts about this /positive

i use discord often to talk to my close friends but i absolutely cannot find the energy to talk in servers. it is always so fast paced and i never know when to join in. my friends always wonder why i'm in so few servers while they are in so many, and i'm just like "i cannot handle the horrors-". bigger communities on there genuinely feel uninviting to talk in (personally, at least), and it feels like a gamble seeking information in them too.

agh, the walls websites put up nowadays to access information is really infuriating too!! like no i don't want an account i just want to find the answer to this question, or this image from an obscure media i like! all the big social medias lock you from the content now either from the get-go or after a miniscule amount of scrolling. iirc, the main reason i made a tumblr (back when i didn't post my art publically and just lurked), was because i couldn't scroll endlessly to look at all the cool stuff.

i'm honestly considering getting an external drive like was mentioned earlier in the replies, once i save up. in case sites i care about go down, i'd at least like to save important information and files from them (i.e. art of my characters, programming tips, info about obscure interests, etc.), cause who knows what'll happen to sites at this rate.

That's definitely a good idea!!! I haven't got any plans to buy an external hard drive in the immediate future, but that's only because my computer has a lot of storage (that was one of my main considerations when choosing one, and luckily my last computer became unusable at about the same time as covid stimulus checks got sent out, so I had a good budget) and so I don't really need an external drive to hoard files - but you'd best believe I'll be getting one as soon as my 2 TB run out.

I can talk in a big discord, but you don't really get anything of substance doing that, imo, because it moves so quickly and there are often long slowmodes. It's fun and all for casual conversation with strangers but if I want to actually make friends I have to DM people, which I'm really bad at keeping up with - I handle fast-paced written conversations best if there's more than 4 but less than 15 people involved, since I get overwhelmed but also am not good at coming up with things to say all the time. So if I want to make friends and have it actually work out I have to invite them to a friend group server, and then there's a whole vetting process for that because I have to be sure they're gonna get along with everybody and then there's also making sure everyone is OK with a new person joining... it's a pain.

so guys, those uh... tumblr layout/UI changes huh?

not necessarily the biggest bad thing in the world but it still sucks :/ i hate how social medias keep copying each others homework. it bugs me mostly with this example since it's like... a lot of people were going to tumblr to escape the twitter experience, and yet they roll out a UI that almost looks picture-for-picture like it!

for context this post shows the comparison pretty well

MumiMoondrops wrote:

so guys, those uh... tumblr layout/UI changes huh?

not necessarily the biggest bad thing in the world but it still sucks :/ i hate how social medias keep copying each others homework. it bugs me mostly with this example since it's like... a lot of people were going to tumblr to escape the twitter experience, and yet they roll out a UI that almost looks picture-for-picture like it!

for context this post shows the comparison pretty well

I really don’t understand what they’re even thinking at Tumblr right now. Why would you change your website to be more like a sinking ship? If they modeled their changes off of something like TikTok, I’d hate that even more, but at least their thought process would make some level of sense since that app is actually making money right now (I think?). But what they really need to do is actually listen to Tumblr users and roll out the types of changes that everyone has been asking for forever, like fixing the search function and removing the Nazis, instead of doing things nobody asked for to try to make Tumblr into a website it isn’t and never has been.

MumiMoondrops wrote:

so guys, those uh... tumblr layout/UI changes huh?

not necessarily the biggest bad thing in the world but it still sucks :/ i hate how social medias keep copying each others homework. it bugs me mostly with this example since it's like... a lot of people were going to tumblr to escape the twitter experience, and yet they roll out a UI that almost looks picture-for-picture like it!

for context this post shows the comparison pretty well

i'm not even joking, i had to take a moment to reenter the url cause i thought i typed in twitter by accident. i can't understand how tumblr of all websites are trying to reform their ui and still have the gall to try to say they know their community so well

oh gods, i hate the new UI. it's a disability accessability nightmare.
also, the posts got narrowers, so it's harder to see art too.

i don't think they will be rolling this back but oh my GOD do i hope they do. i saw someone saying xkit can't fix it either - and if it's so, tumblr be damned. i can only scroll it on my phone now because the new UI gives me an actual headache.

its literal nightmare, also opening tumblr on phone only now, even tho its sometimes hard to use and even more broken. like what are they even thinking???? what sort of idea led to this?????????

been reading through y'all's comments and God I agree so much I am sick and tired of the same layout over and over again on every single fucking website and now tumblr too........ free the internet from these horribly bland layouts !!!!!!!!!!!

literally everything looks the fucking same UUGHH

i really hope forums come back and take off again. theyre so cozy and easy to use once you get the hang of it and realise how much more you can do with em. and also personal websites! ik learning html can be hard but even making very simple ones is so nice. also theres tons of tutorials

Forums making a return would be great.

Like what's been said before, there are Discord communities but they often move SO fast and there are cliques in the bigger ones too. I was at this Dutch anime/manga server but everything happened SO fast it was impossible to keep up when you have work and other stuff. Inside jokes etc made it reallt difficult to join a conversation.

Also it sucks how these platforms keep copying each other! If I wanted the other platform I'd be there instead!. Ugh...

ChronicVillainy wrote:

Forums making a return would be great.

Like what's been said before, there are Discord communities but they often move SO fast and there are cliques in the bigger ones too. I was at this Dutch anime/manga server but everything happened SO fast it was impossible to keep up when you have work and other stuff. Inside jokes etc made it reallt difficult to join a conversation.

Also it sucks how these platforms keep copying each other! If I wanted the other platform I'd be there instead!. Ugh...

that's my problem with discord too... it's just too fast for me. communication keeps moving at speed of light. and there always end up being cliques and inside jokes, and it's hard to join in on a convo if you aren't a part of the group already. it's spammed with quick owns and memes.

also, it's terrible for any kind of more-nuanced discussion, and it doesn't keep data well. like, you can't search the web and find info that was posted only on discord. while you can search it and find stuff on forums. discord is just... bad for internet-keeping. it's great as a messaging service, yk, between your friends, but internet moving so much to discord is kinda bad imo, because we are losing important info and discussions.

Twitter already WAS a toxic dumpster fire and I'm 100% glad I left, but a certain someone really insists on making things worse like every other week or so? Apparently, he wants to change the name of 'twitter' to 'X'? Apparently he wants people to use the app for multiple things than just tweeting (X'ing?) such as payments, ordering food/taxi, etc. 

It's wild, since words like 'tweet' and 'retweeting' have been so iconic and then that guy wants to change the name AND logo of the bird app. And no one asked for all those extra options (if the platform doesn't die before that). 

I feel sorry for the people whose income depends on twitter. Threads is a privacy nightmare not even allowed in the EU and BlueSky also has all sorts of issues.

ChronicVillainy wrote:

Twitter already WAS a toxic dumpster fire and I'm 100% glad I left, but a certain someone really insists on making things worse like every other week or so? Apparently, he wants to change the name of 'twitter' to 'X'? Apparently he wants people to use the app for multiple things than just tweeting (X'ing?) such as payments, ordering food/taxi, etc. 

It's wild, since words like 'tweet' and 'retweeting' have been so iconic and then that guy wants to change the name AND logo of the bird app. And no one asked for all those extra options (if the platform doesn't die before that). 

I feel sorry for the people whose income depends on twitter. Threads is a privacy nightmare not even allowed in the EU and BlueSky also has all sorts of issues.

oooh my gods, i saw that. this is genuinely the dumbest fucking move i've ever seen anyone do. imagine getting a site so iconic it has words associated with, a brand so strong and universally recognized AND YOU DECIDE TO CHANGE IT

JUST THINKING ABT THIS MAKES ME SCREAM

i mean i never really used twitter, i do have an acc there but i just don't get engagement. but also like, there are other people who depend on it... it's truly fucked. i feel like all social media has gone downhill since musk took over the bird app. it's like suddenly everything started rolling down.

It's like buying the Google search engine and then changing the name.

iirc i remember hearing that twitter (or i guess 'X', stupid name-) may be used/scraped to build an AI, although they don't know what it'll be used for yet (it was announced on an artist discord server i'm in ^^ they linked this article so no clue how much weight it carries). still very concerning considering many artists have their data on there.

everything seems to be just going downhill from now, not much hope left for all these sites. i wonder if anything would actually happen to change this stream of very horrible decisions made by stupid people. its been a really hard time for artists recently. not that it was any better before, its just ten times worst.

MumiMoondrops wrote:

iirc i remember hearing that twitter (or i guess 'X', stupid name-) may be used/scraped to build an AI, although they don't know what it'll be used for yet (it was announced on an artist discord server i'm in ^^ they linked this article so no clue how much weight it carries). still very concerning considering many artists have their data on there.

yep, it seems to be true. i checked some other sources too. @ChronicVillainy actually linked one (it leads to insider, but i was able to bypass it with readerzide.com since 12ftladder seems to be a fuckin wreck and doesn't even show half the sites lol). he's def talked about scraping stuff, including the ones by artists.

itsacoffin wrote:

everything seems to be just going downhill from now, not much hope left for all these sites. i wonder if anything would actually happen to change this stream of very horrible decisions made by stupid people. its been a really hard time for artists recently. not that it was any better before, its just ten times worst.

i feel like the socmedia downfall STARTED when musk bought twitter. it's like everything suddenly started going to shit since that moment. like he set in motion a snow avalanche.
i've heard about artfol for posting art, so i made an acc there too. but it's getting really hard to find a place for the artist. i used to use dA a lot, but i was like "nope" when they introduced the profile changes back... a few years ago, actually. and the whole AI thing too.
i still sometimes post on there, but not regularly. tumblr has been my main social, but with all the changes i think it's gonna die too. it's kinda gross how they're choosing new users over the devoted userbase, and i mean - i've been there for like 13 years now, even sticking around after the pornban. but if they continue down this route i might just as well stop using it.

which is shitty bc it's the only site where i get commissions.

oh yeah it probably just started with that musk buying twitter. god i hate him... i cant remember the timeline of event as they happened but i wouldnt be surprised if that was the start we all thinking wow what a stupid move to buy twitter for that much and hes been trying to ruin literally everything in return. ive never seen a person act so pathetic its like a cartoon character tantrum LMAO

Yeah a lot of established platforms (DeviantArt, Artstation...) were shooting themselves in the foot right after Musk bought the no-longer-a-bird app. And yes, he's acting worse than the average toddler on a temper tantrum. I guess this is what happens when no one tells these billionaires 'no'. It's one stupid move after another. 

But yes, agreed about Tumblr, those changes are very worrisome. Not that I think that my other social, Instagram, had a much better future. I dread the moment Threads becomes more integrated, which seems a matter of time? At least EU is stopping things now, but yeah. 

I also have an artfol account (chronicvillainy), but it never really took off sadly enough. I still post my stuff there as backup but it's super quiet there. 

The sad part about social media platforms going down the drain is that communities become fractured and you always end up losing touch with at least SOME people, either because they don't move, move to a different platform than you, or just throw in the towel and disappear. This also includes audiences related to people's livelihoods, activism, etcetera.  Most platforms have been absolutely terrible for artists, agreed.

@ChronicVillainy i've recently made artfol acc too. but it seems to be pretty quiet there... too bad, it and inkblot had really good ideas.

Yeah Inkblot seems even more quiet. It's a real shame, they're both anti-AI and have no algorithm.

so i know most of us hate the new tumblr dashboard
well, i just got it. and i am going mental.

so i'm autistic, and i get overstimulated from cluttered spaces easily. this new layout is driving me nuts. i literally CANNOT use tumblr anymore. its too much. does anyone know ANYTHING that could fix it? i just downloaded XKit for the first time but none of the settings really fix the core problem (the dogshit new dashboard layout that looks like twitter)

MumiMoondrops wrote:

so i know most of us hate the new tumblr dashboard
well, i just got it. and i am going mental.

so i'm autistic, and i get overstimulated from cluttered spaces easily. this new layout is driving me nuts. i literally CANNOT use tumblr anymore. its too much. does anyone know ANYTHING that could fix it? i just downloaded XKit for the first time but none of the settings really fix the core problem (the dogshit new dashboard layout that looks like twitter)

same here actually, hoping someone puts out like a chrome extension or smth to revert it to the old layout like that one that fixed twitter (if anyone knows what im talking about, i cant find the thread of the dude who did it)

MumiMoondrops wrote:

so i know most of us hate the new tumblr dashboard
well, i just got it. and i am going mental.

so i'm autistic, and i get overstimulated from cluttered spaces easily. this new layout is driving me nuts. i literally CANNOT use tumblr anymore. its too much. does anyone know ANYTHING that could fix it? i just downloaded XKit for the first time but none of the settings really fix the core problem (the dogshit new dashboard layout that looks like twitter)

This does not work in my configuration but I hope you have better luck.

https://github.com/enchanted-sword/dashboard-unfucker

If anyone has another method pls let me know.

I just got it too. Why do they 'fix' things that aren't broken?

And Instagram is having a bot problem. As well as spam messages from accounts seeking 'brand representatives', as well as from some shein-related scam.